OpenWhatsapp

Dear Blackberry,

Before you decided that OpenWhatsapp violates WhatsApp's terms and that you could not accept it in App World, have you been fully aware that YOU are the ones who got me started on this project? You are the ones who convinced me to port this application to BB10. You are the ones who explicitly proposed and provided me with internal support from your OWN developers to get my port ready ASAP. You are the ones who sent me a dev Alpha even when I explicity and CLEARLY stated and described what app I am working on. I understand this was back at a time when WhatsApp decided to ditch your platform. But throwing away my work upon a request of WhatsApp was just a cheap shot!

Do you think it's cool to get a developer work on a DAMN app for several months, and then just throw it away in the end?! Do you realize how hard it is to deliver an app that is as polished as OpenWhatsapp?! I understand how NOW you are trying to keep friends with WhatsApp and all that, but do you think this is the appropriate way to treat developers who "really" believed in your platform ?! Or was I just being used?.

And I'm sorry, your limited edition device is not enough "compensation" for my work which again, YOU STARTED, and now simply threw away.I don't want anything that reminds me of this betrayal.

Worst Wishes,
Tarek
OpenWhatsapp Developer

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  1. mike

    mike on 03/25/2013 12:20 a.m. #

    Wow. This is not good.

  2. Carlos

    Carlos on 03/25/2013 12:31 a.m. #

    Dear Tarek,

    Please continue with your work!, I can install WhatsApp in my Z10 why I not have the last update, and why not have this update??, why I have a unlock device and use this in Argentina! And blackberry send the update from the carrier! In my country the carrier cannot import the Z10 and is possible that I not have the update for a long time!!!. How to blackberry say this now??? Why Blackberry not send the update to all devices lock or unlock??? I not understand... For this I think that you develop is excellent! and hope that you continue your work.

  3. Larry Mannu

    Larry Mannu on 03/25/2013 12:33 a.m. #

    Thats no good RIM / BBRY. Great work on the app. You developed a better app than the whatsapp developers though.

    Hope everything gets resolved

  4. raj

    raj on 03/25/2013 12:41 a.m. #

    Very disappointed in BlackBerry!

  5. Robert

    Robert on 03/25/2013 1:53 a.m. #

    BlackBerry had again started ignoring its developers since the last month or so. As a developer myself, they have not been replying to my emails, they didn't even give me my rewards as promised, that too from 4 months ago.

    Alec Saunders, I appeal to you not to do this to your developers if not for moral reasons atleast to be ethical.

  6. Ashraf Samy Hegab

    Ashraf Samy Hegab on 03/25/2013 4:03 a.m. #

    Hey dude, there's no need to throw a strop and throw your work away, you can just release it under a different name.

    "OpenChat", "OpenMessenger" "WhatsUp?" "Izayak" "MostAwesomeChatAppEverInTheHisto.."

  7. Christopher

    Christopher on 03/25/2013 4:26 a.m. #

    Agree with Ashraf not to abolish such an awesome piece of work. It is clear that blackberry have messed you around on this and the reason given was very weak but hopefully with an increasing vote in your favour on crackberry.com, twitter etc to them that if not a changed decision then a more appropriate apology is given.

  8. arisham

    arisham on 03/25/2013 4:56 a.m. #

    Very true. Do not throw your hard work away. You can try using a different name ..

  9. Andrea Grandi

    Andrea Grandi on 03/25/2013 5:01 a.m. #

    Guys, your advices to Tarek are nice and kind from you, but you're completly missing the reason why BlackBerry had to remove OpenWhatsapp from the AppWorld.

    The problema is not the name. The problema is that WhatsApp does NOT ACCEPT any kind of REVERSE ENGINEERING on their service.

    So, for them, it would be illegal even if it was named "ABC".

  10. FAHAD

    FAHAD on 03/25/2013 5:29 a.m. #

    Everyone now is saying BlackBerry is a bad company without seeing why they did this. Tarik is a good developer but at the end he just wrote some words saying that I'm good and blackberry bad !!

    BlackBerry is giving BlackBerry Dev Alpha devices to everyone attended their BlackBerry Jam around the world since last year even if you are NOT developer !

    If WhatsApp says: no, we don't accept any kind of REVERSE ENGINEERING that means its illegal even for BlackBerry to accept it.

  11. Nameless

    Nameless on 03/25/2013 5:30 a.m. #

    Uh :-( WTF?

  12. Hernan Ortegon

    Hernan Ortegon on 03/25/2013 5:35 a.m. #

    Cheer up!!, surely U have the intelligence 2 get some benefit from this. Reminds MeeGo-Jolla is the future.. kindness from México.

  13. Nameless

    Nameless on 03/25/2013 5:43 a.m. #

    @FAHAD
    Clean room reverse engineering is legal.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reverse_engineering#Reverse_engineering_of_software

    A termonuclear mistake.

  14. Phil

    Phil on 03/25/2013 7:01 a.m. #

    Hello world,

    I just recently stumbled upon this nice piece of software. As for me, I always had a quite pessimistic view of global software players like M$, Apple or RIM - I am not an active developer though.
    For me this project hast a much greater scope than an app for BB10 (maybe due me using android), as it provides an complete API backend and thus the possibility of Whatsapp-protocol-plugins for messengers like Pidgin/Adium (libpurple) or - I even hope for this one to happen in greater extend - BitlBee popping up.
    In general, I am very pleased with the notion, that someone out there has the ability to extract the protocol from a proprietary product and make available a readable and open-source alternative, therefore freeing all users from the potential shackles of monopolism (and giving back privacy to some degree).

    To get down to the nitty-gritty: Tarek, I can understand Your grudge towards RIM/Blackberry: It may not be a compensation in material ways, but maybe You can find some gratification in knowing, that You made the world a little bit better for "us".
    I know I'm missing the point of them just screwing You over. But I wouldn't expect anything else from a company relying on bending truths in a judicial ways.

    In this manner: just a thank You for Your work. I hope a lot of projects will rely on Your code and create a more diverse field of clients, as we are a diverse species (narf)!

    Best regards,
    Phil

  15. Nano

    Nano on 03/25/2013 8:50 a.m. #

    Terrible handle of ISVs.

  16. Jon

    Jon on 03/25/2013 11:25 a.m. #

    I agree with some comments above, Tarek must find to get some compensation by his hard work made with BB OpenWhatsapp, then He will decide.

  17. AHB

    AHB on 03/25/2013 11:56 a.m. #

    What was done by BlackBerry is very bad and disappointing, I would like to thank you Tariq and I wish you good luck

  18. AHB

    AHB on 03/25/2013 12:08 p.m. #

    Could it possibly be the name OpenWhatsapp? Remember when Ubertwitter had to change its' name to Ubersocial because Twitter complained ! I wish watch OpenWhatsapp in BlackBerry World soon, even if the name is different

  19. Pablo

    Pablo on 03/25/2013 12:44 p.m. #

    Tarek, these are bad news!! OpenWhatsApp is much better than WhatsApp (I installed both and keep with OpenWahtsApp), please continue with this great work and hope things get solved with BBY son, the App is just sweet.

    Regards from Mexico

  20. CDM

    CDM on 03/25/2013 4:54 p.m. #

    So this is YOUR version of events. From my experiences BlackBerry has 'encouraged' many app developers but none above and beyond others.

    You piggy backed on WhatsApp and clearly violated section 3 of their terms of service.

    I suppose BlackBerry taking down your app is better than being sued by WhatsApp.

  21. Franky

    Franky on 03/25/2013 5 p.m. #

    Come on berry don't turn into the ultra douc he that is spple.

  22. NONCELLULOSE

    NONCELLULOSE on 03/26/2013 2:27 a.m. #

    This is way beyond right/wrong. Everyone who reads this thread could send money to Tarek. Even a buck. BB should be ashamed. BB Bad faux pas.

    Screw the lawyers and all the "what did he expect" talk I've read over at Crackberry's thread on this. Too many people trip over their logic trying applying it to love...

    If you love BB10, love great software, love developers, then send Tarek some money. Where's your humanity elsewise?

  23. FAHAD

    FAHAD on 03/26/2013 9:06 a.m. #

    well I still think that Tariq's problem is with whatsapp it self not BlackBerry. I don't really think BlackBerry wants to get sued for this !

    If I'm not wrong whatsapp talked about reverse-engineer which is illegal
    http://www.whatsapp.com/legal/

    Tariq even wrote in "About" page: Ultimate goal for the OpenWhatsapp project is to be officially recognized, approved and supported by WhatsApp.

    which means OpenWhatsapp until now is not APPROVED or supported by WhatsApp. I'm not sure if Tariq contacted them before or not but I think he should resolve this problem with WhatsApp, nothing to do with BlackBerry.

  24. andy

    andy on 03/26/2013 10:41 a.m. #

    I myself want to be an app developer but I just don't have the talent to do so. So I admire the developers and their hard work. Although I can't so anything, I still mentally support you.

  25. Ronell

    Ronell on 03/26/2013 2:35 p.m. #

    Come On...... BlackBerry is trying to get the top apps for BlackBerry 10 to get Consumers buying again. It's obvious what the intentions were. I think it's a matter of how it was dealt with personally. I mean I believe some type of compensation is in order but it's company trying to get things right. And What's App was in demand

  26. Aniello Del Sorbo

    Aniello Del Sorbo on 03/26/2013 3:57 p.m. #

    Would be nice to know how you were approached by Blackberry and on what terms. Could you clarify?

  27. Floor

    Floor on 03/27/2013 2:04 a.m. #

    Roneil, and stay away if you aren't at there top 10 app-list?

  28. Luigi

    Luigi on 03/27/2013 12:28 p.m. #

    Tarek, change the name of the application and some other look changes... In those days many people search a different solution because whatsapp request charges... And Your application can be the right replacement of that application :-)

  29. Daz

    Daz on 03/27/2013 11:14 p.m. #

    Hi Tarek,
    I'm sorry to hear Blackberry did not support your hard work after they themselves asked you to port the app to their platform, damn them! as a Nokia N9 user, I know you are a genius and a committed developer, I hope you can start new projects and work with more reliable companies. Time approaches for me to change my cel phone and won't choose a BB device! Thanks for your support to meego!

  30. Eduard

    Eduard on 03/28/2013 2:46 a.m. #

    I understand WhatsApp reasons. WhatsApp only works because it is closed. If it was opened, it is easy to create spamming apps given the fact that no authorization is needed from client side. That said, it is a very bold move from BB side. WhatsApp is there, surely, because Wazapp was there first. And if WhatsApp bans it, I think it is fair to compensate the work on OpenWhatsApp with some big money. This is not simply another App. WhatsApp is the reason to sell or not sell 30% of the phones at least, so I understand BB should have paid Tarek a sum with lots of zeroes for his solicited job.
    In fact, BB10 is the successor of N9. Whoever has an N9 knows. Being kind with N9 developers (and not betraying them) seems the clever move. And less expensive that much other investments.

  31. P

    P on 03/28/2013 6:06 a.m. #

    I feel sorry about that. What a company is RIM ?
    and I decided not to buy any BB10

  32. alist3r

    alist3r on 03/31/2013 6:56 a.m. #

    BB is the bitch.
    Whatsapp is the Pimp

  33. Androider

    Androider on 03/31/2013 7:20 a.m. #

    Android rulz.

  34. Arthemus

    Arthemus on 03/31/2013 9:59 a.m. #

    I think, If you could made such this great thing, maybe you can develop your skill and make something NEW!!!

  35. eja

    eja on 03/31/2013 7:07 p.m. #

    #freepukpuk to tarek

  36. B

    B on 04/08/2013 8:04 a.m. #

    I find your post to be asinine and childish. Thank you for posting so that I know NEVER to support you. If you have a business issue with a company take it up with them and doubt pout yourself all over the Web.

  37. BJ

    BJ on 04/08/2013 10:25 a.m. #

    How about posting the full story and not just your whiny side of it? What was BlackBerry's response and reasoning?.

  38. Robert

    Robert on 04/09/2013 7:52 a.m. #

    I find. It sad that you felt a need to post a public whine without giving evidence of the other side. Only thing I find to be sadder is all the people who take your post as record and think you are in the right.

  39. Me

    Me on 04/09/2013 8:17 p.m. #

    Thanks for all your work Tarek.
    I use Wazapp on my N9 and i am grateful you made it possible.
    I hope i will be able to keep using it when i buy an Jolla Sailfish device.
    I feel your pain.

  40. Gósi

    Gósi on 04/11/2013 3:07 p.m. #

    Hi Tarek,
    I'm using Wazapp for quite a while now and I just wanted to say thank you so much for making this possible!
    Keep up the good work!
    Gósi

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